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Since: Jan 01, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:05 pm
Post subject: ichat questions
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I just bought an iMac for my son and I am a bit confused by iChat.
* Does iChat allow people on different services to send each other
messages? That is, if he is logged in to an AIM account, can he IM
with a friend who is on google talk?
* I can log him on with AIM, but if I try logging him in with his
google talk account, I get a "cannot connect to server" error. I
assume this is due to some sort of firewall or proxy issue (we are
using dd-wrt on our router and he is connecting via a dansguardian
proxy server)
* Anything else I should know? Is it really necessary for him to have
a .Mac account for things to work nicely?
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Since: Jul 27, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:33 pm
Post subject: Re: ichat questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
> I just bought an iMac for my son and I am a bit confused by iChat.
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> * Does iChat allow people on different services to send each other
> messages? That is, if he is logged in to an AIM account, can he IM
> with a friend who is on google talk?
No. An AIM account can communicate with other AIM accounts. And AFAIK
the same holds true for all the other chat services. AIM, and some
other applications, let you access multiple services. But they (also
AFAIK) do not let you connect them in any way. iChat is a distinct
client for each service.
> * I can log him on with AIM, but if I try logging him in with his
> google talk account, I get a "cannot connect to server" error. I
> assume this is due to some sort of firewall or proxy issue (we are
> using dd-wrt on our router and he is connecting via a dansguardian
> proxy server)
It's not a firewall or proxy issue, it's simply that AIM is AIM and
Google is Google and they don't interact. iChat doesn't know how to
talk to Google, Yahoo, MSN or any others. When iChat came out there
were rumors that support for additional services but it hasn't come to
pass.
> * Anything else I should know? Is it really necessary for him to have
> a .Mac account for things to work nicely?
No.
iChat is a chat client for AIM, .Mac and Bonjour (for local network
iChat users using no server).
I wish there was some way to chat between services but, for now, the
service providers don't seem to consider that in their best interests so
they don't.
Your only solution at this point is for one or both of you to get an
account on the "other" service.
I have AIM and Yahoo accounts. Most of my chatting is on AIM, I signed
up for it much earlier and because most people I chat with are on it.
--
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting
"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" |
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Since: Aug 19, 2003
Posts: 1469
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:39 pm
Post subject: Re: ichat questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article
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Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
> I just bought an iMac for my son and I am a bit confused by iChat.
>
> * Does iChat allow people on different services to send each other
> messages? That is, if he is logged in to an AIM account, can he IM
> with a friend who is on google talk?
No, he needs a Google talk account to do that.
> * I can log him on with AIM, but if I try logging him in with his
> google talk account, I get a "cannot connect to server" error. I
> assume this is due to some sort of firewall or proxy issue (we are
> using dd-wrt on our router and he is connecting via a dansguardian
> proxy server)
Possibly; with Leopard (10.5) this should just work if you go through
iChat's account-setup system. You might check out Google's iChat help
at
<http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=24076&query=icha
t&topic=&type=>. It's a little out of date but possibly useful.
> * Anything else I should know? Is it really necessary for him to have
> a .Mac account for things to work nicely?
You don't need a .Mac account to use any of iChat's features.
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Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
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Since: Jan 01, 2008
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:12 pm
Post subject: Re: ichat questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
Clark Martin wrote:
> Your only solution at this point is for one or both of you to get an
> account on the "other" service.
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I took from his post that he has the accounts, just can't figure out how
to log into them with iChat. As you correctly point out, he can't
OP, you might try an app called Adium (http://www.adiumx.com/). It has
the ability to use several services at the same time. >> Stay informed about: ichat questions |
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Since: Jan 13, 2005
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:09 am
Post subject: Re: ichat questions [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article
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Raymond Luxury-Yacht wrote:
> I just bought an iMac for my son and I am a bit confused by iChat.
>
> * Does iChat allow people on different services to send each other
> messages? That is, if he is logged in to an AIM account, can he IM
> with a friend who is on google talk?
Google Talk yes. See the following instructions:
<http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2407
6>
> * I can log him on with AIM, but if I try logging him in with his
> google talk account, I get a "cannot connect to server" error. I
> assume this is due to some sort of firewall or proxy issue (we are
> using dd-wrt on our router and he is connecting via a dansguardian
> proxy server)
> * Anything else I should know? Is it really necessary for him to have
> a .Mac account for things to work nicely?
No, you do not need .Mac
> Thanks!
You might also try Adium
<http://www.adiumx.com/>
which can connect to most IM services, however it is restricted to
text and does not do audio or video.
I use Adium at work where I use AIM, my company's Jabber server,
and Google Talk, but do not have any need for audio or video at
work (and the corporate firewall would block it anyway  ). >> Stay informed about: ichat questions |
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Since: Jul 28, 2003
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:01 am
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Clark Martin:
> I wish there was some way to chat between services but, for now, the
> service providers don't seem to consider that in their best interests so
> they don't.
May I bring that to a logical conclusion for you?
"...the servicer providers don't seem to consider that in their best
interests so they don't. And they don't give a rat's knobby little
kneecaps about users' interests."
Davoud
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:10 pm
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In article ,
Clark Martin wrote:
> iChat is a chat client for AIM, .Mac and Bonjour (for local network
> iChat users using no server).
The current version indicates it does Google Talk and Jabber too and
gives setup parameters for those also.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:17 pm
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In article ,
ringwraith wrote:
> In article ,
> Clark Martin wrote:
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> > Your only solution at this point is for one or both of you to get an
> > account on the "other" service.
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> I took from his post that he has the accounts, just can't figure out how
> to log into them with iChat. As you correctly point out, he can't
>
The OP also wants to communicate from AIM to Google which he can't.
> OP, you might try an app called Adium (http://www.adiumx.com/). It has
> the ability to use several services at the same time.
--
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting
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