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steamKILLER

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:55 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:58 am
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Johnny Bravo wrote:

 > wrote:
 >
  > >mac games are totally superfluous and all energies should be
  > >focus on pc games
 >
 > As we all well know, giving the customer only one choice is the best
 > way to make sure the customer gets the right choice for that customer
 > rather than the one choice the company wants to give them.


Or to put it into context, SayNO's dad runs an independent computer
games shop, and it aint doing too well right now. SayNO loves his daddy
and is doing everything he can to get us to buy more of what the shop
stocks and therefore revive its fortunes. The shop does not stock
titles for consoles or Macs, so they must be exterminated and everyone
be forced to buy PC games (it doesn't matter if you play them, just so
long as you buy them).

That's why this is such good news for PC games, (by which I mean
shopkeepers).

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:24 am
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On 16 Jun 2005 22:55:53 -0700, "steamKILLER"
wrote:

 >mac games are totally superfluous and all energies should be
 >focus on pc games

As we all well know, giving the customer only one choice is the best
way to make sure the customer gets the right choice for that customer
rather than the one choice the company wants to give them.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 12:56 pm
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On 16 Jun 2005 22:55:53 -0700, steamKILLER wrote:

 > so for me its obvious, apple using intel is good for pc games
 > and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!

1) Name some commercial Mac names. If you end up with at least five
significant games, subtract those titles that are just ports of PC
releases. How many are left?

2) The result of the above exercise might cause some people to conclude
that the typical Mac user is not particular interested in typical PC games.

3) Linux/BSD/BeOS also runs on Intel-PCs. Re-read #1 and replace "Mac" with
"Linux".

4) The conclusion now should be that the OS matters more than the CPU.
Intel-based Macs will not run Windows. Nearly all PC games today are for
Windows.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:46 pm
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"steamKILLER" wrote in message

 > x-no-archive: yes
 >
 > apple using intel is good for pc games
 >
 > apple using intel processor will be good for pc games cause
 > pc games will have yet another hardware to run
 > apple using intel will run windows so apple users can become
 > pc gamers by installing a dual boot system with the mac os
 > and windows making a apple user only a boot away from playing
 > the greatest pc games
 > so for me its obvious, apple using intel is good for pc games
 > and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!
 > mac games are totally superfluous and all energies should be
 > focus on pc games
 > so lets give a warm welcome to our new fellow pc gamers the
 > apple users!
 >
Using the same type of processor in no way implies that the actual system
will be PC compatible. It could a completely define architecture. For
example, a lot of the old microcomputers (TRS-80, Spectrum, etc.) used the
Z-80 family of processors, yet were as different as night and day.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:47 pm
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"REH" wrote in message

 >
 > will be PC compatible. It could a completely define architecture. For
s/define/different/
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:19 pm
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On 16 Jun 2005 22:55:53 -0700, "steamKILLER"
dared speak in front of ME:

 >x-no-archive: yes
 >
 >apple using intel is good for pc games
 >
 >apple using intel processor will be good for pc games cause
 >pc games will have yet another hardware to run
 >apple using intel will run windows

But why would they? Most Apple users have rejected windows.

At best, we're looking at a setup that makes it easy to port the games
between the two platforms.

 >so apple users can become
 >pc gamers by installing a dual boot system with the mac os
 >and windows making a apple user only a boot away from playing
 >the greatest pc games

Having seen the macos versions of the games that run on both, I would
say that's a downgrade.

 >and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!

No, really it's not.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:19 pm
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:56:32 +0200, Michael Vondung
dared speak in front of ME:

 >On 16 Jun 2005 22:55:53 -0700, steamKILLER wrote:
 >
  >> so for me its obvious, apple using intel is good for pc games
  >> and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!
 >
 >1) Name some commercial Mac names. If you end up with at least five
 >significant games, subtract those titles that are just ports of PC
 >releases. How many are left?
 >
 >2) The result of the above exercise might cause some people to conclude
 >that the typical Mac user is not particular interested in typical PC games.
 >
 >3) Linux/BSD/BeOS also runs on Intel-PCs. Re-read #1 and replace "Mac" with
 >"Linux".

Heh. I love BeOS. Takes longer for my system to POST than it does to
boot the OS. Unfortunately, little support and fewer games.

Linux, at least, has easy access to WINE. No need to dual-boot, as
long as your game is supported.

 >4) The conclusion now should be that the OS matters more than the CPU.
 >Intel-based Macs will not run Windows. Nearly all PC games today are for
 >Windows.

I think it's time to start a crusade for more BeOS games. What I saw
of the shareware market made a lot of the professional Windows games
look amateurish.

Support BeOS, now Zeta. Kill the PC games market. Wink

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:26 pm
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"steamKILLER" wrote in message

 > x-no-archive: yes
 >
 > apple using intel is good for pc games
 >
 > apple using intel processor will be good for pc games cause
 > pc games will have yet another hardware to run
 > apple using intel will run windows so apple users can become
 > pc gamers by installing a dual boot system with the mac os
 > and windows making a apple user only a boot away from playing
 > the greatest pc games
 > so for me its obvious, apple using intel is good for pc games
 > and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!
 > mac games are totally superfluous and all energies should be
 > focus on pc games
 > so lets give a warm welcome to our new fellow pc gamers the
 > apple users!
 >
 > --

I wonder, ever hear of this word?

Punctuation! This post, as do most of your others, makes no sense.

Alanb
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:26 pm
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In article ,
Michael Vondung < > wrote:

 > 1) Name some commercial Mac names. If you end up with at least five
 > significant games, subtract those titles that are just ports of PC
 > releases. How many are left?

I think Ambrosia and Freeverse have a number of Mac-only games.

 > Intel-based Macs will not run Windows. Nearly all PC games today are for
 > Windows.

True. I don't see the Mac processor making much difference (and I
develop games on a Macintosh).

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:30 am
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Oh come now, he uses two exclamation marks and a comma. Besides I
don't think a bit of punctuation is going to be sufficient to add much
clarity to his postings.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:39 pm
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On 2005-06-17 13:24:13 +0300, Johnny Bravo said:


 > wrote:
 >
  >> mac games are totally superfluous and all energies should be
  >> focus on pc games
 >
 > As we all well know, giving the customer only one choice is the best
 > way to make sure the customer gets the right choice for that customer
 > rather than the one choice the company wants to give them.

You shouldn't reply to a lifeless troll posting to 5+ newsgroups with
broken "x-no archive" header.

First thing you should ask is, does he have at least $20 in trailer he
lives in for buying a new game? No? Fine than, move on Smile

Yes troll, it has been archived. Wink

Ilgaz
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:32 am
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:19:14 -0600, Kaos wrote:

> On 16 Jun 2005 22:55:53 -0700, "steamKILLER"
> dared speak in front of ME:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>
>>apple using intel is good for pc games
>>
>>apple using intel processor will be good for pc games cause
>>pc games will have yet another hardware to run
>>apple using intel will run windows
>
> But why would they? Most Apple users have rejected windows.
>
> At best, we're looking at a setup that makes it easy to port the games
> Having seen the macos versions of the games that run on both, I would
> say that's a downgrade.
>
>>and will probably kill mac games which is very good news!
>
> No, really it's not.
>

Erm yes it is. I keep around a Windows machine for ONE reason: to play
games. Many games NEVER get ported to the Mac, and if they do they are
usually MUCH more expensive, late(Mac version comes out a year or so
later at $60, PC version now a $5 bargain bin item), and missing
features(network play interoperability, editing, etc.), e.g. NWN.

Mac only games: Haven't been any that hot in a while, and the only decent
looking one, Halo was borgified.

I'd wish that Apple had chosen AMD64(slightly less kludged arch), but at
least for gaming(going to wait until ALL macs are x86 and then a couple
revisions b4 buying another mac) is that I'll be able to boot into windoze
on the same machine to game, or, hopefully, run WINE under OSX and not
reboot, or MAYBE, even something with complete virtualization
VMWARE/VirtualPC run windoze under that with full hw access... Mac games
are dead. RIP.
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