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In article ,
"zara" wrote:

> "Jim Lee Jr." wrote in message
>
> > In article ,
> > "zara" wrote:
> >
> >> "Jim Lee Jr." wrote in message
> >>
> >> > In article ,
> >> > "zara" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Jim Lee Jr." wrote in message
> >> >>
> >> >> > In article ,
> >> >> > "zara" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Truly amazing, 97% of the computing world uses Windoze.
> >> >> >> There is very little traffic there. Very, very few complaints.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Complaints that you know of.
> >> >>
> >> >> You can go there yourself. You are free to judge for yourself.
> >> >
> >> > I have judged for myself, enough to switch to the Mac.
> >>
> >> Proving what a big fool you are.
> >
> > Foolish enough to not put up with malware, DLL hell, etc. Now adjust
> > your "Kick Me" sign.
>
> 'Malware?" A thing of the past. "DLL hell?" A thing of the past. I have
> been computing since 1991, no viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions.

Try turning your machines on and see what happens.

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In article ,
"relic" wrote:

> Mr. Strat wrote:
> > In article , zara
> > wrote:
> >
> >> 'Malware?" A thing of the past. "DLL hell?" A thing of the past.
> >> I have been computing since 1991, no viruses, trojans, malware,
> >> intrusions.
> >
> > No truth, no clue.
>
> I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
> either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest bit of
> common sense to get infected with any of that.

Think of how many Windoze users are careless and get malware.

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In article ,
"G.T." wrote:

> "relic" wrote in message
>
> > Mr. Strat wrote:
> >> In article , zara
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 'Malware"? A thing of the past. "DLL hell"? A thing of the past.
> >>> I have been computing since 1991 - no viruses, trojans, malware,
> >>> intrusions.
> >>
> >> No truth...no clue...
> >
> > I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
> > either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest bit of
> > common sense to get infected with any of that.
>
> You guys are hilarious. You mean you have to be ultra-careful with an XP
> install until it has been patched. I can put a fresh install of OS X on the
> internet and not worry about it. BECAUSE IT'S SECURE BY DEFAULT.
>
> http://www.news.com/Microsoft-exec-calls-XP-hack-frightening/2100-7349_3-62182
> 38.html
>
> Greg

The Micro$lut drones will try to deny that.

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In article ,
"relic" wrote:

> G.T. wrote:
> > "relic" wrote in message
> >
> >> Mr. Strat wrote:
> >>> In article , zara
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 'Malware"? A thing of the past. "DLL hell"? A thing of the past.
> >>>> I have been computing since 1991 - no viruses, trojans, malware,
> >>>> intrusions.
> >>>
> >>> No truth...no clue...
> >>
> >> I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
> >> either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest
> >> bit of common sense to get infected with any of that.
> >
> > You guys are hilarious. You mean you have to be ultra-careful with
> > an XP install until it has been patched. I can put a fresh install
> > of OS X on the internet and not worry about it. BECAUSE IT'S SECURE
> > BY DEFAULT.
>
> Translated: How can you guys not get infected? I always got infected,
> therefore you have to be lying.

Try switching to the Mac or Linux, then you will not get infected.
Malware infection is par for the course of using Windoze.

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In article ,
"chrisv" wrote:
> C Lund wrote:
> > In article ,
> > "zara" wrote:
> >> Truly amazing - 97% of the computing world uses WINDOWS.
> >> There is very little traffic there. Very, very few complaints.
> > That's an *advocacy* forum. There is very little traffic there because
> > nobody advocates Windows.
> alt.comp.os.windows-xp is an *advocacy* forum? Do you know the meaning of
> "advocacy"?

Whoops. My bad. I'm posting from one advocacy group and was thinking
about the windows version. Guess it only shows how little attention I
pay to what "zara" writes..

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Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
> In article ,
> "relic" wrote:
>
>> Mr. Strat wrote:
>>> In article , zara
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Malware?" A thing of the past. "DLL hell?" A thing of the past.
>>>> I have been computing since 1991, no viruses, trojans, malware,
>>>> intrusions.
>>>
>>> No truth, no clue.
>>
>> I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
>> either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest
>> bit of common sense to get infected with any of that.
>
> Think of how many Windoze users are careless and get malware.

Okay, I thought about it. Now, how was that supposed to change what I said
(or what zara said)?
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At 21 Nov 2007 19:13:32 -0600 Jim Lee Jr. wrote:

> > http://www.news.com/Microsoft-exec-calls-XP-hack-frightening/2100-
7349_3-62182
> > 38.html
> >
> > Greg
>
> The Micro$lut drones will try to deny that.

Nope- it's probably very accurate under the stated conditions:

"...a machine running Windows XP with Service Pack 1 to an unsecured
wireless network. The machine was running no antivirus, firewall, or anti-
spyware software and contained a sample target file of passwords to be
stolen."

Very frightening! In a related story, money was stolen from a series of
automobiles that were parked unguarded in abandoned lots with the windows
down, doors unlocked, and the victims' wallets left visibly on the
dashboard...


Stacking the deck a WEE bit, aren't we? Virtually every router has a
firewall on by default, and any name-brand Wintel PC sold in the last few
years includes AV software- at least a trial version. While someone
patching a home-built PC might not have AV software included, he or she
typically isn't newbie enough to run a completely unprotected system
either.
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 21 Nov 2007 19:13:32 -0600 Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
>
>>> http://www.news.com/Microsoft-exec-calls-XP-hack-frightening/2100-
> 7349_3-62182
>>> 38.html
>>>
>>> Greg
>> The Micro$lut drones will try to deny that.
>
> Nope- it's probably very accurate under the stated conditions:
>
> "...a machine running Windows XP with Service Pack 1 to an unsecured
> wireless network. The machine was running no antivirus, firewall, or anti-
> spyware software and contained a sample target file of passwords to be
> stolen."
>
> Very frightening! In a related story, money was stolen from a series of
> automobiles that were parked unguarded in abandoned lots with the windows
> down, doors unlocked, and the victims' wallets left visibly on the
> dashboard...
>
>
> Stacking the deck a WEE bit, aren't we? Virtually every router has a
> firewall on by default, and any name-brand Wintel PC sold in the last few
> years includes AV software- at least a trial version. While someone
> patching a home-built PC might not have AV software included, he or she
> typically isn't newbie enough to run a completely unprotected system
> either.

You Windows apologists just don't get it. There's no reason to not be
secure out of the box. Zero. Inexcusable.

Greg
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G.T. wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>> At 21 Nov 2007 19:13:32 -0600 Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.news.com/Microsoft-exec-calls-XP-hack-frightening/2100-
>>>> 7349_3-62182 38.html
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>> The Micro$lut drones will try to deny that.
>>
>> Nope- it's probably very accurate under the stated conditions:
>>
>> "...a machine running Windows XP with Service Pack 1 to an unsecured
>> wireless network. The machine was running no antivirus, firewall, or
>> anti- spyware software and contained a sample target file of
>> passwords to be stolen."
>>
>> Very frightening! In a related story, money was stolen from a
>> series of automobiles that were parked unguarded in abandoned lots
>> with the windows down, doors unlocked, and the victims' wallets left
>> visibly on the dashboard...
>>
>>
>> Stacking the deck a WEE bit, aren't we? Virtually every router has a
>> firewall on by default, and any name-brand Wintel PC sold in the
>> last few years includes AV software- at least a trial version. While
>> someone patching a home-built PC might not have AV software
>> included, he or she typically isn't newbie enough to run a
>> completely unprotected system either.
>
> You Windows apologists just don't get it. There's no reason to not be
> secure out of the box. Zero. Inexcusable.

You mean that you don't even need a condom? Amazing!
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"G.T." wrote in message

>
> "relic" wrote in message
>
>> Mr. Strat wrote:
>>> In article , zara
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'Malware"? A thing of the past. "DLL hell"? A thing of the past.
>>>> I have been computing since 1991 - no viruses, trojans, malware,
>>>> intrusions.
>>>
>>> No truth...no clue...
>>
>> I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
>> either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest bit of
>> common sense to get infected with any of that.
>
> You guys are hilarious. You mean you have to be ultra-careful with an XP
> install until it has been patched. I can put a fresh install of OS X on
> the internet and not worry about it. BECAUSE IT'S SECURE BY DEFAULT.

We mean, we have never had a problem. Just like you.
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"Jim Lee Jr." wrote in message

> In article ,
> "relic" wrote:
>
>> G.T. wrote:
>> > "relic" wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Mr. Strat wrote:
>> >>> In article , zara
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> 'Malware"? A thing of the past. "DLL hell"? A thing of the past.
>> >>>> I have been computing since 1991 - no viruses, trojans, malware,
>> >>>> intrusions.
>> >>>
>> >>> No truth...no clue...
>> >>
>> >> I've been at it longer. No viruses, trojans, malware, intrusions here
>> >> either. You have to either be careless, or not have the slightest
>> >> bit of common sense to get infected with any of that.
>> >
>> > You guys are hilarious. You mean you have to be ultra-careful with
>> > an XP install until it has been patched. I can put a fresh install
>> > of OS X on the internet and not worry about it. BECAUSE IT'S SECURE
>> > BY DEFAULT.
>>
>> Translated: How can you guys not get infected? I always got infected,
>> therefore you have to be lying.
>
> Try switching to the Mac or Linux, then you will not get infected.
> Malware infection is par for the course of using Windoze.

Earth to Judy. I think he said he uses a mac.
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:41:01 -0500, Mr. Strat wrote
(in article ):

> In article ,
> J.J. O'Shea wrote:
>
>> Come on, now, XP is simply not _that_ bad. WinME is the second-worst
>> OS-like
>> thing to ever escape from the dungeons beneath Mickeysoft's HQ, Bob being
>> the
>> worst. Frankly, Bob was so bad that the only reason the lead manager on the
>> Bob project wasn't bounced out of Mickeysoft was that she was very, very,
>> VERY good friends with Billg. Even Zune is better than Bob... WinXP is
>> nowhere near as bad. It's superior to Win98SE in several ways, and to
>> WinNT4
>> in others, and at least equal to W2K in a few. Of all the Mickeysoft OSes
>> I'd
>> prefer W2K, but there are things that it just won't do but that XP will.
>> (And
>> no, this is not an accident. You can see the same tactics being applied
>> with
>> Vista, but with markedly less success, because Vista really _is_ as bad
>> WinME. Maybe worse.)
>
> Bob was not an operating system.

True. That's why I said 'OS-like'.

> It was a response to the horrid
> Packard Bell Navigator

Only it was much, much, MUCH worse.

> (or whatever they called it) and promoted by the
> future Mrs. Gates.

Like I said... the only reason she wasn't fired was that she was really good
friends with Billg.

>
> The Zune remains a turd. The only ones I've seen are behind a locked
> case at Wally World.

The new Zunes are better (they could hardly be worse...) and I've seen two of
them out in the real world. Of course, one of the two was on it's way back to
the store from whence it had come... Gotta love it.

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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:01:30 -0500, § wrote
(in article ):

> J.J. O'Shea wrote:
>> Of all the Mickeysoft OSes I'd
>> prefer W2K, but there are things that it just won't do but that XP will.
>> (And
>> no, this is not an accident. You can see the same tactics being applied
>> with
>> Vista, but with markedly less success, because Vista really _is_ as bad
>> WinME. Maybe worse.)
>
> W2K = the best windows released hands down

Ooh, yeah.

>
>>
>> Whenever I saw a WinME installation, I'd put either Win98SE or W2K on that
>> machine, depending on the machine's capabilities, as quickly as possible.
>
> W2k yes.....Win98 no......dos yes

Win98SE was usable. That alone made it better than WinME.

>
>>
>> XP is at least usable. Fugly, slow, fugly, virus-ridden, did I mention
>> fugly,
>> and a hacker's dream, but it can be used. WinME is just as much a slow,
>> fugly, virus-ridden, hacker's delight as XP, and it's unusable on top of
>> all
>> that.
>>
>
> Bingo!
>
> btw, I love MacOS



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