Naming Spaces

Itay Hazan wrote:

> On Nov 16, 5:16 pm, TaliesinSoft wrote:
> > I've become quite a fan of Spaces and currently am using 13 of the 16
> > availaable. A feature I would like is to give each of my spaces a name
> > in addition to a number. Such space names could easily be included in
> > the dropdown menulet. As things now I keep a diagram by my side listing
> > my spaces and what applications will open in each one. I'm curious as to
> > whether others feel similarly. I've sent a feature request to Apple.
> >
> > --
> > James Leo Ryan ..... Austin, Texas ..... taliesins....TakeThisOut@me.com
>
> Excellent idea, I wold love to include this feature, and am quite
> surprised apple did not include it them selves with the OS, since it
> seems quite trivial and very helpful.
> I second your motion !
>
> -MetaHolic

Surely having to keep a diagram is a sign you've taken Spaces too far?
Seriously - what advantage is there segregating apps so finely?
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:40 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
(in article ):

[commenting on my prior posting in which I stated that I have applications
assigned to 13 of the 16 possible spaces]

> Surely having to keep a diagram is a sign you've taken Spaces too far?
> Seriously - what advantage is there segregating apps so finely?

I'll readily admit that my preferences for managing a multiplicity of
currently open applications may not be the same as for other Mac users. That
aside, I do indeed appreciate that Spaces allows me to avoid desktop clutter
and having one application "smother" the windows of another that is also
open. I am using the Control-Arrow method of navigating Spaces more and more.
But I would still like the option of giving each Space its own name.

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TaliesinSoft wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:40 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
> (in article ):
>
> [commenting on my prior posting in which I stated that I have applications
> assigned to 13 of the 16 possible spaces]
>
> > Surely having to keep a diagram is a sign you've taken Spaces too far?
> > Seriously - what advantage is there segregating apps so finely?
>
> I'll readily admit that my preferences for managing a multiplicity of
> currently open applications may not be the same as for other Mac users. That
> aside, I do indeed appreciate that Spaces allows me to avoid desktop clutter
> and having one application "smother" the windows of another that is also
> open. I am using the Control-Arrow method of navigating Spaces more and more.
> But I would still like the option of giving each Space its own name.

I think I'd rather Apple just fixed hiding so certain apps don't become
immune to hiding after being open a while or won't return properly from
being hid (usually a case of everything but the menubar returning and
being unable to use the KB with it).

If I could reliably hide all other apps I'd never need anything like
Spaces. For now I use Spaces when I want to focus all my attention on
just one app.
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:58:43 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
(in article ):

> I think I'd rather Apple just fixed hiding so certain apps don't become
> immune to hiding after being open a while or won't return properly from
> being hid (usually a case of everything but the menubar returning and
> being unable to use the KB with it).

I have no recollection of ever having a hidden application not displaying the
menubar upon unhiding.

> If I could reliably hide all other apps I'd never need anything like
> Spaces. For now I use Spaces when I want to focus all my attention on
> just one app.

Actually, my use of Spaces is primarily to "hide" other than the current
application, especially when I have a multiplicity of applications
concurrently open.

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TaliesinSoft wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:58:43 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
> (in article ):
>
> > I think I'd rather Apple just fixed hiding so certain apps don't become
> > immune to hiding after being open a while or won't return properly from
> > being hid (usually a case of everything but the menubar returning and
> > being unable to use the KB with it).
>
> I have no recollection of ever having a hidden application not displaying the
> menubar upon unhiding.

*laughs* I wish I had one of these Macs magically immune from these
bugs.
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Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

> TaliesinSoft wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 22:58:43 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
> > (in article ):
> >
> > > I think I'd rather Apple just fixed hiding so certain apps don't become
> > > immune to hiding after being open a while or won't return properly from
> > > being hid (usually a case of everything but the menubar returning and
> > > being unable to use the KB with it).
> >
> > I have no recollection of ever having a hidden application not
> > displaying the menubar upon unhiding.
>
> *laughs* I wish I had one of these Macs magically immune from these
> bugs.

To be clearer - hiding has been buggy since 10.3 at least which is when
I seriously started using OSX. It has happened on four different Macs -
everything from a souped up Rev c G3 iMac to a mid-2007 24" 2.8GHz iMac.
Quite how others fail to discover this bug is beyond my imagining.
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In article ,
TaliesinSoft wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:40 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote
> (in article ):
>
> [commenting on my prior posting in which I stated that I have applications
> assigned to 13 of the 16 possible spaces]
>
> > Surely having to keep a diagram is a sign you've taken Spaces too far?
> > Seriously - what advantage is there segregating apps so finely?
>
> I'll readily admit that my preferences for managing a multiplicity of
> currently open applications may not be the same as for other Mac users. That
> aside, I do indeed appreciate that Spaces allows me to avoid desktop clutter
> and having one application "smother" the windows of another that is also
> open. I am using the Control-Arrow method of navigating Spaces more and more.
> But I would still like the option of giving each Space its own name.

My chief annoyance with Spaces is that when launching an application
targeted for other than the current Space and that application pops a
dialog box (e.g. keychain request), the dialog box is presented in the
exited Space.

Such dialogs do not show in the Spaces overview (which I've mapped to
the MM scroll ball button) requiring me to recall which Space had been
active at the time of the launch, switch back, respond to the dialog,
and then switch back to the new application's Space.

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In article ,
Tom Stiller wrote:

> Such dialogs do not show in the Spaces overview (which I've mapped to
> the MM scroll ball button) requiring me to recall which Space had been
> active at the time of the launch, switch back, respond to the dialog,
> and then switch back to the new application's Space.

You can set a key to display _all_ the spaces at once.

Another problem is that some apps insist on opening in Space #1
exclusively; Toast is one. I'm used to it now, though.
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Warren Oates wrote:
> In article ,
> Tom Stiller wrote:
>
>> Such dialogs do not show in the Spaces overview (which I've mapped to
>> the MM scroll ball button) requiring me to recall which Space had been
>> active at the time of the launch, switch back, respond to the dialog,
>> and then switch back to the new application's Space.
>
> You can set a key to display _all_ the spaces at once.
>
> Another problem is that some apps insist on opening in Space #1
> exclusively; Toast is one. I'm used to it now, though.

Strange, for me it opens in space 7, which is where I told it to.

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On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:57:40 -0600, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote (in article
):

[responding to my stating that I keep a diagram of my sixteen spaces by my
computer]

> Surely having to keep a diagram is a sign you've taken Spaces too far?
> Seriously - what advantage is there segregating apps so finely?

Just now I changed Spaces preferences so that clicking on the center button
of my mouse, a Kensington Slimbade Presenter, reveals a miniature of each of
the sixteen spaces and then I can click on the one I want to make active.
Previsously I had to use Function-F8 to do the same thing and it was just
awkward. My initial reaction to this change has been most favorable and it
looks like I will no longer have to reference the diagram. Admittedly I can
switch amongst active applications using the Command-Tab method or clicking
on an application in the dock, but for reasons I can't explain I like the
visualness of seeing the miniature of the screen for the space containing an
active application.

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In article ,
Warren Oates wrote:

> In article ,
> Tom Stiller wrote:
>
> > Such dialogs do not show in the Spaces overview (which I've mapped to
> > the MM scroll ball button) requiring me to recall which Space had been
> > active at the time of the launch, switch back, respond to the dialog,
> > and then switch back to the new application's Space.
>
> You can set a key to display _all_ the spaces at once.

Or corner of the screen.

> Another problem is that some apps insist on opening in Space #1
> exclusively; Toast is one. I'm used to it now, though.
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In article ,
Warren Oates wrote:

> In article ,
> Tom Stiller wrote:
>
> > Such dialogs do not show in the Spaces overview (which I've mapped to
> > the MM scroll ball button) requiring me to recall which Space had been
> > active at the time of the launch, switch back, respond to the dialog,
> > and then switch back to the new application's Space.
>
> You can set a key to display _all_ the spaces at once.
>
> Another problem is that some apps insist on opening in Space #1
> exclusively; Toast is one. I'm used to it now, though.

Read my post. I've mapped that to the scroll ball button. My complaint
stands.

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