MT-Newswatcher feature request

In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

> In article ,
> Lionel Mychkine wrote:
>
> > When I open a filter window in the filters list, I can see : This filter
> > has been used x times since xx/xx/xx (the creation date).
> >
> > It would be great to know which date the filter has been used for the
> > last time. So it would be easiest to clean up filters that are not used
> > anymore.
>
> You can set the filter to expire x number of days after its last use.
> That way, unused filters can be automatically deleted for you.

Yes, but that's not what he asked. I would like what Lionel wants, too.
He (and I) would like to be able to tell when the filter has last been
used, i.e. when it is no longer needed. Your approach would have to
predict that. Hard to do. Lionel's approach would be to just check the
"traffic" on the filters occasionally. I like that.

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In article ,
Lou Pecora wrote:

> In article ,
> Alice Faber wrote:
>
> > In article ,
> > Lionel Mychkine wrote:
> >
> > > When I open a filter window in the filters list, I can see : This filter
> > > has been used x times since xx/xx/xx (the creation date).
> > >
> > > It would be great to know which date the filter has been used for the
> > > last time. So it would be easiest to clean up filters that are not used
> > > anymore.
> >
> > You can set the filter to expire x number of days after its last use.
> > That way, unused filters can be automatically deleted for you.
>
> Yes, but that's not what he asked. I would like what Lionel wants, too.
> He (and I) would like to be able to tell when the filter has last been
> used, i.e. when it is no longer needed. Your approach would have to
> predict that. Hard to do. Lionel's approach would be to just check the
> "traffic" on the filters occasionally. I like that.

Every filter that I have with an automatic expiration date shows, under
the Advanced tab, when it will expire if it isn't used again. So, one I
just checked says December 13. Since my default filter setting is 10
days after last use, all I have to do is subtract 10 and I know that
filter was used on December 3.

I have enough filters that manual checking isn't practical. When I open
MTNW, I get an alert about which filters are set to expire that day and
I can check those to see how much use they got. A filter that's been
used once since I set it can safely go; one that's been used a lot but
not in the past 10 days might stay.

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In article ,
Michelle Steiner wrote:

> In article ,
> Lou Pecora wrote:
>
> > > You can set the filter to expire x number of days after its last
> > > use. That way, unused filters can be automatically deleted for you.
> >
> > Yes, but that's not what he asked. I would like what Lionel wants,
> > too. He (and I) would like to be able to tell when the filter has
> > last been used, i.e. when it is no longer needed. Your approach
> > would have to predict that. Hard to do.
>
> If it's set for three months after last use, what is the difference
> between that and telling you it's been three months, so you can delete
> it yourself?

???? But I have the situation of not knowing when it was last used. Or
does MTNewswatcher do that and I am missing it? I thought that "last
use" date was what Lionel wanted. Me, too. Please tell me if MTN gives
that. Thank you.

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In article ,
Alice Faber wrote:

> Every filter that I have with an automatic expiration date shows, under
> the Advanced tab, when it will expire if it isn't used again. So, one I
> just checked says December 13. Since my default filter setting is 10
> days after last use, all I have to do is subtract 10 and I know that
> filter was used on December 3.

Well, we're partly there. Thank you Ms. Faber. I didn't know MTN had
this feature. This would do automatically what Lionel wants. Well,
partially, he wants to do each delete manually based on his judgement.
See?

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In article ,
Lou Pecora wrote:

> In article ,
> Alice Faber wrote:
>
> > Every filter that I have with an automatic expiration date shows, under
> > the Advanced tab, when it will expire if it isn't used again. So, one I
> > just checked says December 13. Since my default filter setting is 10
> > days after last use, all I have to do is subtract 10 and I know that
> > filter was used on December 3.
>
> Well, we're partly there. Thank you Ms. Faber. I didn't know MTN had
> this feature. This would do automatically what Lionel wants. Well,
> partially, he wants to do each delete manually based on his judgement.
> See?

Well, then, he can set his filters to default to expiring 365 days from
last use.

At least in the latest non-beta version (3.5.2), Preferences > Filtering
& Junk tab, click on Filter defaults button.

Personally, I'd say that if a filter hasn't been used in a year, it's
safe to delete it; in any case, the default behavior of the program is
that it will alert you about any filters that are going to be deleted,
and you can decide to save any of them that you're emotionally attached
to.

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In article ,
Lionel Mychkine wrote:

[...]

> Many of my filters are not set with an expiration date (for exemple
> posts from a contributor that I don't want to read or posts from a
> contributor that I highlight with a hight priority ans a special color).
> If a contributor doesn't post any more, I can't see it and the filter
> stays set forever.

You have no way of knowing that someone will never post anymore. All you
can know is he hasn't posted for x amount of time. So if you configure
the fiter to expire after y amount of time non-use, you have the result
you're looking for, no?

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In article ,
Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

> In article ,
> Lionel Mychkine wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Many of my filters are not set with an expiration date (for exemple
> > posts from a contributor that I don't want to read or posts from a
> > contributor that I highlight with a hight priority ans a special color).
> > If a contributor doesn't post any more, I can't see it and the filter
> > stays set forever.
>
> You have no way of knowing that someone will never post anymore. All you
> can know is he hasn't posted for x amount of time. So if you configure
> the fiter to expire after y amount of time non-use, you have the result
> you're looking for, no?

I cannot understand why people cannot see what Lionel wants. Perhaps we
are wording it poorly. How can you predict what y should be? That goal
is to delete filters that have not been used in X months, say. But you
don't know when the filter was last used (or if MTNewswatcher gives this
information, please tell me). So you have to guess y and then the
filter may expire, but still be useful. So you have to reset it.

Can you see what we're asking? I do not want to reset filters still in
use, but I do want to delete those no longer used. Just setting the
filter to expire in some number of months (y) doesn't do that.

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