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Jolly Roger

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:48 pm
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In article ,
(Jim Glidewell) wrote:

> In comp.sys.mac.system Jim Glidewell wrote:
> >
> > VisualHub works for me. I can drag EyeTV documents directly into the
> > VisualHub window and tell it to encode to whatever format I want (I
> > usually use the AppleTV setting, and have it auto-import into iTunes).
> > I was actually kind of surprised that worked the first time I tried
> > it.
> >
> > Techspansion also offers iSquint, which is freeware - VisualHub is
> > its ~$25 big brother. I'd guess that iSquint handles eyetv files
> > as well, but has a much more limited set of encoding choices.
> > Try 'em both...
> >
> > www.techspansion.com
> >
> > And if you have multiple Macs around the house, VisualHub can use
> > Xgrid to share the load when encoding multiple files. A bit touchy
> > to set up, but kind of cool when you've got a whole stack of files
> > to convert.
>
> Ooops! Didn't read the subject line, so I didn't realize that command-
> line was a requirement.
>
> But I think that VisualHub and maybe iSquint have a log where you can
> see the commands they are actually running - you may be able to make
> use of that. I doubt that either app is AppleScriptable, but I've never
> checked.

I see no such logging feature in either iSquint or VisualHub.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> I don't want to export from EyeTV. I want to convert the MPEG-2 stream
> in the .eyetv bundle directly to mp4 - without using EyeTV's Export
> feature.

Try VLC. It has command line support. So does Mencoder, part
of the Linux Mplayer video player, which has been ported to
OSX.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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gsm.DeleteThis@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > I don't want to export from EyeTV. I want to convert the MPEG-2 stream
> > in the .eyetv bundle directly to mp4 - without using EyeTV's Export
> > feature.
>
> Try VLC. It has command line support. So does Mencoder, part
> of the Linux Mplayer video player, which has been ported to
> OSX.

Well I tried messing around with what appears to be the command-line
tool inside of the VLC Mac application bundle
(/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc), but every command I sent
to it resulted in exceptions like this:

2007-11-15 15:43:42.344 clivlc[19743:10b] *** Terminating app due to
uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '***
-[NSCFDictionary initWithObjects:forKeys:count:]: attempt to insert nil
value at objects[0] (key: NSOwner)'
2007-11-15 15:43:42.347 clivlc[19743:10b] Stack: (
2514149184,
2471986860,
2514127580,
2514137552,
2475957160,
93380,
18084,
18980,
692456,
16120,
10764,
10000
)

Here's a sample command I sent it:

/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc 000000000c8cc975.mpg --sout
’#transcode{vcodec=mp4v,acodec=mp4a,vb=1024,scale=1,ab=128,channels=2}:st
andard{access=file,mux=ts,dst="000000000c8cc975.mp4"}’

Not very promising - maybe that binary isn't really meant to function as
a command-line tool, despite the name.

I guess my next step is to compile the source and try that out. But I'll
have to wait to do that until i have time to download and install the
prerequisite command-line packages (like, it looks like it may require
ffmeg, for instance).

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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In article
,
Jolly Roger wrote:

> Well I tried messing around with what appears to be the command-line
> tool inside of the VLC Mac application bundle
> (/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc), but every command I sent
> to it resulted in exceptions like this:

What happens if you just tell it

/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --help
or
/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --list

?

(Note: I have an alias set to the full path of the executable, so I can
just type vlc at the prompt; also, clivlc is just a symlink to the main
executable).
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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In article ,
Warren Oates wrote:

> In article
> ,
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > Well I tried messing around with what appears to be the command-line
> > tool inside of the VLC Mac application bundle
> > (/Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc), but every command I sent
> > to it resulted in exceptions like this:
>
> What happens if you just tell it
>
> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --help
> or
> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --list
>
> ?
>
> (Note: I have an alias set to the full path of the executable, so I can
> just type vlc at the prompt; also, clivlc is just a symlink to the main
> executable).

Those work, but then those switches won't exactly convert my stuff like
I want, either. ; )

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:12 am
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article , nospamatall
> wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> I've been using Toast 7 to convert EyeTV transport streams (raw MPEG-2
>>> data transmitted by broadcasters) to MPEG-4 H.264 files so that I can
>>> load them up on my iPod.
>>>
>> MPEG Streamclip will open transport streams, and can export to H264, and
>> it's free.
>>
>> http://www.squared5.com/
>
> At first glance, this doesn't appear to be a command-line utility.
>

No but I thought seeing as you'd been using toast before, it would be
better than that and so if you don't solve the problem with a
command-line utility you might find that useful. In any event, if you
mess around with video much it has a lot going for it.

I got the impression you were trying to find something command-line just
because of the troubles with toast.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:12 am
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In article , nospamatall
wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > In article , nospamatall
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Jolly Roger wrote:
> >>> I've been using Toast 7 to convert EyeTV transport streams (raw MPEG-2
> >>> data transmitted by broadcasters) to MPEG-4 H.264 files so that I can
> >>> load them up on my iPod.
> >>>
> >> MPEG Streamclip will open transport streams, and can export to H264, and
> >> it's free.
> >>
> >> http://www.squared5.com/
> >
> > At first glance, this doesn't appear to be a command-line utility.
>
> No but I thought seeing as you'd been using toast before, it would be
> better than that and so if you don't solve the problem with a
> command-line utility you might find that useful. In any event, if you
> mess around with video much it has a lot going for it.

Okay well in that light, thanks - I'll definitely keep it in mind. : )

> I got the impression you were trying to find something command-line just
> because of the troubles with toast.

That's one reason, yes. The other reasons include that I want more
control than most GUI applications give you, I want to be able to script
and extend the living *#%^$ out of it, and I want to be able to run it
automated in the background as well. Also if it were open source, that
would be a huge bonus.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:41 am
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article , nospamatall
> wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> I've been using Toast 7 to convert EyeTV transport streams (raw MPEG-2
>>> data transmitted by broadcasters) to MPEG-4 H.264 files so that I can
>>> load them up on my iPod.
>>>
>> MPEG Streamclip will open transport streams, and can export to H264, and
>> it's free.
>>
>> http://www.squared5.com/
>
> At first glance, this doesn't appear to be a command-line utility.
>
Right I never used this feature, but as you said you want to script it,
I remember seeing that it has a batch list. It might not be exactly what
you want but if you aren't having much luck elsewhere it may help. the
following is from the manual and should be enough for you to know if it
is any use.

The program is not scriptable, but this guy has been working on
something similar and says he had to use GUI scripting. It looks like it
might work if you can do that.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=621201
(see third comment down, "Mr PTB"

here's the manual entry for batch:

USING BATCH PROCESSING
If you want to use batch processing, please open the batch list using
the List menu. The batch list shows a queue of tasks that will be
executed when you click the Go button.

If you have many files you want to convert, you can click the "Add
Files" button, or drag & drop the files into the batch list. You will be
asked to choose a task and a destination directory. You have the option
to fix timecode breaks and join selected files. For export, you will
also need to enter the export settings; if the files don't have the same
frame size, rate, and aspect, you will be asked for export settings
several times. PIDs for the conversion will be chosen automatically for
each file.

Loading all files in the batch list may take time: you can stop the
process with Command-. or Esc, if necessary.
But there is another way to fill the batch list. In fact, while the
batch list is open (even when hidden by other windows) every conversion
you choose in the File menu will be added to the batch list instead of
being performed immediately (so remember to close it when you want to do
an immediate conversion). This includes Save As, Export to, Convert to,
Demux to; and even Download and Upload from/to supported PVR devices.
The source stream used is of course, the one shown in the player.
If you add tasks this way, all editing, trimming, In/Out points, and
chosen PIDs, will be saved in the batch list; thus a batched conversion
gives the same results as an immediate conversion. If you then make
further changes to the source stream in the player, these changes do not
affect editing, trimming, In/Out points, and PIDs stored in the batch
list. And you can even close the stream and open another stream in the
player if you want; all conversion data will remain in the batch list
until you delete the task or quit the application.

You can start batch processing with the "Go" button. The button's name
will change to "Stop", if you click it again, processing of further
tasks will be stopped but the currently running task will continue till
completion. To stop the running task and all subsequent tasks, you can
use the "Stop" button in the progress window.

The initial status of a task is "Waiting". If you click the "Hold"
button you can change the status to "Held" and then back to "Waiting".
When a task is "Held" it will be skipped during batch processing, but it
remains in the batch list.

Once executed, the status of a task changes to "Completed"; if
unsuccessful, the status reports the error message. To execute the task
again, you need to change the status back to "Waiting" by using the
"Repeat" button.

You can change the processing order of tasks by selecting one task and
using the "Up" and "Down" buttons. You can remove a task from the list
using the "Delete" button, or all tasks using the "Clear" button.
You can change the destination folder of one or more tasks with the
"Redirect" button; and with the "Script" button you can choose a script
to be executed when all tasks have been completed."
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:01 am
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Jolly Roger wrote:

> In article ,
> notinuse2 RemoveThis @btinternet.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
>
> > Ilgaz Ècal wrote:
> >
> > > On 2007-11-15 02:57:27 +0200, Jolly Roger said:
> > >
> > > > I've been using Toast 7 to convert EyeTV transport streams (raw MPEG-2
> > > > data transmitted by broadcasters) to MPEG-4 H.264 files so that I can
> > > > load them up on my iPod.
> > > >
> > > > Toast does an okay job, except if I queue up a bunch of conversions,
> > > > often Toast tends to crash overnight. Also Toast doesn't often pick a
> > > > name that reflects the actual name of the episode being converted, so I
> > > > end up with names like Damages.mp4, Damages [1].mp4, Damages [2].mp4,
> > > > and so on.
> >
> > Get Handbrake, http://handbrake.m0k.org/
> >
> > Export your EyeTv recording and load it into Handbrake.
> >
> > Handbrake will queue up your files and save with the same <filename>.mp4
>
> I don't want to export from EyeTV. I want to convert the MPEG-2 stream
> in the .eyetv bundle directly to mp4 - without using EyeTV's Export
> feature.

I'm not sure what you've got against using the export feature. I have to
use it with virtually all BBC programmes or I get the AD track. This was
supposed to be fixed in Toast 8 but wasn't.

> Handbrake (the current version, at least) cannot open MPEG-2 transport
> streams.

I also need to export EyeTV files for VisualHub. Loading the EyeTV
package directly into VisualHub produces .mp4 files with the sound about
three seconds out of sync.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:36 pm
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On 2007-11-15 12:36:50 +0200, Jolly Roger said:

> In article ,
> Ilgaz Öcal wrote:
>
>> Qt Tools will really do whatever Quicktime Pro can over command line. I
>> used it exactly for that purpose, MPEG 2 to MPEG 4/H264.
>
> Care to share the command line you use to do it? I couldn't get qt_tools
> to open the MPEG-2 stream file from the .eyetv bundle.

Here is an example which is mixed mode, gui for cryptic qt settings,
save them and use the settings on actual export

qt_export --dodialog --savesettings=eyetv.ini

(preferably run in your home dir)

Set H264 , 2 pass, don't set bandwidth (should be detected), AAC 48
khz, NO "prepare for streaming".

after file created

qt_export /Volumes/Maxtor/Users/ilgaz/Movies/EyeTV\
Archive/Oz1.eyetv/000000000ca1d35f.mpg --loadsettings=eyetv.ini
~/Desktop/test.mov

My output is below
+ exporter subtype : MooV
+ exporter mfr : appl
+
+ duration : all
+ video compressor : avc1
+ video frames per second : movie
+ video quality : 75
+ video bits per pixel : 24
+ video key frame rate : 0
+
+ audio compressor : mp4a
+ audio format : 44100 / 16 / stereo
+
+ data kilobytes per second : whatever
+
+ replace existing file : no
+

It seem to ignore my 48khz setting to get rid of resampling but it
won't be problem.

The real problem comes from there is no standard name for the mpg file
contained in container. I had to dig via using TAB completion.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:36 pm
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In article ,
Ilgaz Öcal wrote:

> On 2007-11-15 12:36:50 +0200, Jolly Roger said:
>
> > In article ,
> > Ilgaz Ècal wrote:
> >
> >> Qt Tools will really do whatever Quicktime Pro can over command line. I
> >> used it exactly for that purpose, MPEG 2 to MPEG 4/H264.
> >
> > Care to share the command line you use to do it? I couldn't get qt_tools
> > to open the MPEG-2 stream file from the .eyetv bundle.
>
> Here is an example which is mixed mode, gui for cryptic qt settings,
> save them and use the settings on actual export
>
> qt_export --dodialog --savesettings=eyetv.ini
>
> (preferably run in your home dir)
>
> Set H264 , 2 pass, don't set bandwidth (should be detected), AAC 48
> khz, NO "prepare for streaming".

Ok. When I attempt to specify some of these settings (the audio
settings, for instance), all buttons and options in the dialog box lose
focus and are disabled as a result. From that point on. I am unable to
bring the dialog box to the front to bring the buttons etc. into focus.
So the only way to dismiss the dialog box once that happens is to
Control-C out of the command line.

Looks like I'm going to have to do this with command-line options
instead.

> after file created
>
> qt_export /Volumes/Maxtor/Users/ilgaz/Movies/EyeTV\
> Archive/Oz1.eyetv/000000000ca1d35f.mpg --loadsettings=eyetv.ini
> ~/Desktop/test.mov

So since I was unable to create an INI file, I used the following
command line to approximate your settings (I inserted tabs here to make
it easier to read):

# qt_export
--video=imdc:avc1:appl,0,75,24
--audio=scom:mp4a:appl,44100,16,2
~/Desktop/Insider.eyetv/000000000cd70815.mpg
~/Desktop/Insider.eyetv/test.mp4

Which returned this error:

### error: could not open movie
/Users/jr/Desktop/Insider.eyetv/000000000cd70815.mpg
### error is -1

> My output is below
> + exporter subtype : MooV
> + exporter mfr : appl
> +
> + duration : all
> + video compressor : avc1
> + video frames per second : movie
> + video quality : 75
> + video bits per pixel : 24
> + video key frame rate : 0
> +
> + audio compressor : mp4a
> + audio format : 44100 / 16 / stereo
> +
> + data kilobytes per second : whatever
> +
> + replace existing file : no
> +
>
> It seem to ignore my 48khz setting to get rid of resampling but it
> won't be problem.
>
> The real problem comes from there is no standard name for the mpg file
> contained in container. I had to dig via using TAB completion.

I wish I could get that far, but it seems qt_export can't open EyeTV
MPEG-2 transport streams here. I wonder why...

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:51 pm
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In article ,
Warren Oates wrote:

> What happens if you just tell it
>
> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --help
> or
> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --list


Please excuse my ignorance, but what does the last "--list" tell me?

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:18 am
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On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:51:06 -0600, Lawrance A. Schneider wrote
(in article
<llaassllaass-
27CA20.23510608022008 RemoveThis @softbank060082049208.bbtec.net>):

> In article ,
> Warren Oates wrote:
>
>> What happens if you just tell it
>>
>> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --help
>> or
>> /Applications/VLC.app/Contents/MacOS/clivlc --list
>
>
> Please excuse my ignorance, but what does the last "--list" tell me?

If you executed the first one, it would tell what you the second
one does.


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