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Since: Oct 24, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 8:15 am
Post subject: LinkSys Router Problem
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I recently purchased a LinkSys BEFSX41 router to replace the TrendNet
router which came with my WildBlue satellite internet connection, because
the TrendNet didn't allow me to disable UPnP.
While the TrendNet "just worked", the LinkSys stops receiving bytes every
two to three hours. At that point, I can either press the Reset button on
the back of the router, or do a "DHCP Release" / "DHCP Renew" on the
router's status page, and I'm good for another 2-3 hours.
I've not changed any network settings on my Mac Pro (10.4.11) when I
switched routers. The LinkSys is set up to "Obtain an IP automatically",
just as the TrendNet was. The only changes I've made from the defaults
on the LinkSys are the admin password and the timezone settings, plus
I've upgraded the router's firmware to 1.52.15, the most recent on the
LinkSys web site (the router had the same bad behavior with the firmware
it came with: 1.15.9).
I've tried power-cycling the router, power-cycling the satellite modem
and then, after it came up, the router, all to no avail.
What can I do to fix the router so that I don't have to Reset it every
couple of hours?
TIA,
-Dave
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:45 am
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
David Emme wrote:
> I recently purchased a LinkSys BEFSX41 router to replace the TrendNet
> router which came with my WildBlue satellite internet connection, because
> the TrendNet didn't allow me to disable UPnP.
>
> While the TrendNet "just worked", the LinkSys stops receiving bytes every
> two to three hours. At that point, I can either press the Reset button on
> the back of the router, or do a "DHCP Release" / "DHCP Renew" on the
> router's status page, and I'm good for another 2-3 hours.
>
> I've not changed any network settings on my Mac Pro (10.4.11) when I
> switched routers. The LinkSys is set up to "Obtain an IP automatically",
> just as the TrendNet was. The only changes I've made from the defaults
> on the LinkSys are the admin password and the timezone settings, plus
> I've upgraded the router's firmware to 1.52.15, the most recent on the
> LinkSys web site (the router had the same bad behavior with the firmware
> it came with: 1.15.9).
>
> I've tried power-cycling the router, power-cycling the satellite modem
> and then, after it came up, the router, all to no avail.
>
> What can I do to fix the router so that I don't have to Reset it every
> couple of hours?
>
Who is your ISP and do they require you to register the MAC address of
the device connected to their modem?
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Tom Stiller
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:50 am
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
Tom Stiller wrote:
> In article ,
> David Emme wrote:
>
> > I recently purchased a LinkSys BEFSX41 router to replace the TrendNet
> > router which came with my WildBlue satellite internet connection, because
> > the TrendNet didn't allow me to disable UPnP.
> >
> > While the TrendNet "just worked", the LinkSys stops receiving bytes every
> > two to three hours. At that point, I can either press the Reset button on
> > the back of the router, or do a "DHCP Release" / "DHCP Renew" on the
> > router's status page, and I'm good for another 2-3 hours.
> >
> > I've not changed any network settings on my Mac Pro (10.4.11) when I
> > switched routers. The LinkSys is set up to "Obtain an IP automatically",
> > just as the TrendNet was. The only changes I've made from the defaults
> > on the LinkSys are the admin password and the timezone settings, plus
> > I've upgraded the router's firmware to 1.52.15, the most recent on the
> > LinkSys web site (the router had the same bad behavior with the firmware
> > it came with: 1.15.9).
> >
> > I've tried power-cycling the router, power-cycling the satellite modem
> > and then, after it came up, the router, all to no avail.
> >
> > What can I do to fix the router so that I don't have to Reset it every
> > couple of hours?
> >
>
> Who is your ISP and do they require you to register the MAC address of
> the device connected to their modem?
Oops, I missed the reference to "WildBlue" above; sorry.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:09 am
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2008.02.01 15:15:51,
the amazing declared:
> I recently purchased a LinkSys BEFSX41 router to replace the TrendNet
> router which came with my WildBlue satellite internet connection, because
> the TrendNet didn't allow me to disable UPnP.
>
> While the TrendNet "just worked", the LinkSys stops receiving bytes every
> two to three hours. At that point, I can either press the Reset button on
> the back of the router, or do a "DHCP Release" / "DHCP Renew" on the
> router's status page, and I'm good for another 2-3 hours.
>
> I've not changed any network settings on my Mac Pro (10.4.11) when I
> switched routers. The LinkSys is set up to "Obtain an IP automatically",
> just as the TrendNet was. The only changes I've made from the defaults
> on the LinkSys are the admin password and the timezone settings, plus
> I've upgraded the router's firmware to 1.52.15, the most recent on the
> LinkSys web site (the router had the same bad behavior with the firmware
> it came with: 1.15.9).
>
> I've tried power-cycling the router, power-cycling the satellite modem
> and then, after it came up, the router, all to no avail.
>
> What can I do to fix the router so that I don't have to Reset it every
> couple of hours?
I'm 99% sure you've already done this, but it's
worth asking: have you set the "keep alive" option
on the setup page?
N.
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Nollaig MacKenzie
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:09 am
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
>
> On 2008.02.01 15:15:51,
> the amazing declared:
[...]
> > While the TrendNet "just worked", the LinkSys stops receiving bytes every
> > two to three hours. At that point, I can either press the Reset button on
> > the back of the router, or do a "DHCP Release" / "DHCP Renew" on the
> > router's status page, and I'm good for another 2-3 hours.
> >
[...]
> > What can I do to fix the router so that I don't have to Reset it every
> > couple of hours?
>
> I'm 99% sure you've already done this, but it's
> worth asking: have you set the "keep alive" option
> on the setup page?
Thanks for the response. To answer your question, I haven't made such a
setting because I can't find (or recognize) any such setting on my
router's Setup (or any other) page. Being a clueless network user, I
might be looking right at it and not recognize it, but there's nothing
called "Keep Alive" or similar wording. What should I be looking for?
The "Internet Setup" section of the Setup page for "Obtain an IP
automatically" offers only Host Name and Domain Name optional settings
(both are left blank), and an MTU size override setting, currently
disabled.
I see that the connection type "PPoE" has a "Keep Alive: Redial Period
xx Seconds" setting, but, I'm using DHCP, not PPoE".
TIA,
-Dave
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:21 pm
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2008.02.05 15:11:51,
the amazing declared:
> In article ,
> Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
>
<snip!>
>> I'm 99% sure you've already done this, but it's
>> worth asking: have you set the "keep alive" option
>> on the setup page?
<snip!>
> I see that the connection type "PPoE" has a "Keep Alive: Redial Period
> xx Seconds" setting, but, I'm using DHCP, not PPoE".
Oops. Hadn't thought of that - I've only ever used
PPOE. Apologies.
N.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:48 pm
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
> On 2008.02.05 15:11:51,
> the amazing declared:
>
<<stuff deleted>>
>>I see that the connection type "PPoE" has a "Keep Alive: Redial Period
>>xx Seconds" setting, but, I'm using DHCP, not PPoE".
>
>
> Oops. Hadn't thought of that - I've only ever used
> PPOE. Apologies.
Now am I missing something here? I didn't think that PPPoE and
the use of DHCP were mutually exclusive. In fact, I believe that
I've run PPPoE and DHCP simultaneously on occasion.
DHCP is a method for arbitrating IP addresses (as opposed to
manually setting them to a locked value)
PPPoE is a connection protocol that is session oriented.
I'm pretty sure that you can run both at the same time. If you
are getting timeouts on your SESSION, I don't believe that it has
anything to do with whether you are using DHCP or you are
manually assigning your IP configurations. DHCP does have a lease
time but it typically can be in the order of several days.
Your DHCP release/renew might be a red herring since it causes
activity to be transmitted on the net possibly renewing the PPPoE
session as well.
If I'm in left field here, please someone correct me!  But I
think that Nollaig's original suggestion might still have merit.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:25 am
Post subject: Re: LinkSys Router Problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article ,
Jeff Wiseman wrote:
> Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
>
> > On 2008.02.05 15:11:51,
> > the amazing declared:
> >
> <<stuff deleted>>
>
> >>I see that the connection type "PPoE" has a "Keep Alive: Redial Period
> >>xx Seconds" setting, but, I'm using DHCP, not PPoE".
> >
> >
> > Oops. Hadn't thought of that - I've only ever used
> > PPOE. Apologies.
>
> Now am I missing something here? I didn't think that PPPoE and
> the use of DHCP were mutually exclusive. In fact, I believe that
> I've run PPPoE and DHCP simultaneously on occasion.
>
> DHCP is a method for arbitrating IP addresses (as opposed to
> manually setting them to a locked value)
>
> PPPoE is a connection protocol that is session oriented.
>
> I'm pretty sure that you can run both at the same time.
As I mentioned before, I'm clueless on networks, so please forgive
and correct any stupidities that follow...
I don't see how to "run both at the same time." The DHCP ("obtain IP
address automatically") and PPoE settings are mutually exclusive on my
router's setup page. And my old router (set up by the WildBlue
installation guy) was set to use DHCP, so I just copied that.
> If you
> are getting timeouts on your SESSION, I don't believe that it has
> anything to do with whether you are using DHCP or you are
> manually assigning your IP configurations. DHCP does have a lease
> time but it typically can be in the order of several days.
>
> Your DHCP release/renew might be a red herring since it causes
> activity to be transmitted on the net possibly renewing the PPPoE
> session as well.
I failed to mention before that I have Mail set up to download email
from the POP server every 5 minutes, so there should be regular network
activity initiated by my Mac. And the router "drops the connection" even
while I'm working. Yesterday I was reading a newly-downloaded Web page,
and about 2 minutes later clicked a link to read the next page, and the
router had "dropped the connection" during that short interval.
>
> If I'm in left field here, please someone correct me! But I
> think that Nollaig's original suggestion might still have merit.
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It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:09 pm
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In article ,
David Emme wrote:
> In article ,
> Jeff Wiseman wrote:
>
> > Nollaig MacKenzie wrote:
> >
> > > On 2008.02.05 15:11:51,
> > > the amazing declared:
> > >
> > <<stuff deleted>>
> >
> > >>I see that the connection type "PPoE" has a "Keep Alive: Redial Period
> > >>xx Seconds" setting, but, I'm using DHCP, not PPoE".
> > >
> > >
> > > Oops. Hadn't thought of that - I've only ever used
> > > PPOE. Apologies.
> >
> > Now am I missing something here? I didn't think that PPPoE and
> > the use of DHCP were mutually exclusive. In fact, I believe that
> > I've run PPPoE and DHCP simultaneously on occasion.
> >
> > DHCP is a method for arbitrating IP addresses (as opposed to
> > manually setting them to a locked value)
> >
> > PPPoE is a connection protocol that is session oriented.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that you can run both at the same time.
>
> As I mentioned before, I'm clueless on networks, so please forgive
> and correct any stupidities that follow...
>
> I don't see how to "run both at the same time." The DHCP ("obtain IP
> address automatically") and PPoE settings are mutually exclusive on my
> router's setup page. And my old router (set up by the WildBlue
> installation guy) was set to use DHCP, so I just copied that.
>
> > If you
> > are getting timeouts on your SESSION, I don't believe that it has
> > anything to do with whether you are using DHCP or you are
> > manually assigning your IP configurations. DHCP does have a lease
> > time but it typically can be in the order of several days.
> >
> > Your DHCP release/renew might be a red herring since it causes
> > activity to be transmitted on the net possibly renewing the PPPoE
> > session as well.
>
> I failed to mention before that I have Mail set up to download email
> from the POP server every 5 minutes, so there should be regular network
> activity initiated by my Mac. And the router "drops the connection" even
> while I'm working. Yesterday I was reading a newly-downloaded Web page,
> and about 2 minutes later clicked a link to read the next page, and the
> router had "dropped the connection" during that short interval.
>
> >
> > If I'm in left field here, please someone correct me! But I
> > think that Nollaig's original suggestion might still have merit.
I had a Linksys router for about five years and it was very flaky for
the last two. My new Netgear never drops connections. >> Stay informed about: LinkSys Router Problem |
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