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kanjanop

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Since: May 04, 2008
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:03 am
Post subject: Re: Erroneous circular reference warnings in Excel 2008 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Thank you for your report. We are working on a fix for the circular
> reference problem and hope to have an update with the fix out soon. It would
> still be very valuable to have your file to use as part of our verification
> of the fix. A file for the other problems you mention would also be very,
> very helpful. If you could send them to me at patmcmil.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com I would
> be very grateful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
>
>
> On 5/4/08 11:38 PM, in article ee8bff6.17.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
> "kanjanop@officeformac.com" wrote:
>
> > I have the same problem with Excel 2008 for Mac. There is no CIRCULAR when I
> > created it in MS Excel 2003. All formulas are correct as I retyped them for
> > Mac Excel (the reason I had to build a new one for Mac Excel was it couldn't
> > open by Mac Excel but NeoOffice could do it without any problem - Apple
> > salesperson and I tested NeoOffice and Mac Excel in Bangkok iStudio - I really
> > don't know why this problem occured). The CIRCULAR message is unreal as it
> > appeared and disappeared. For MS Excel, it will constantly show CIRCULAR all
> > the time if it is real circular. I'm willing to send my file to you (Mr. Bob
> > Greehblatt), if you want to take a look.
> >
> > Also, Mac Excel file has another problem as explained below. No problems at
> > all when I use MS Excel 2003.
> >
> > 1) If I change depreciation year for fixed asset #5 (i.e. from 5 years to 10
> > years), Mac Excel will not respond. I have to force quit.
> >
> > 2) If I include depreciation of fixed asset #4 and #5, Mac Excel will not
> > respond too.
> >
> > 3) I noticed that when I use "Trace Precedents" in Mac Excel, the Trace
> > Precedents reported wrong cell. Instead of pointing to the cell in another
> > sheet (this is correct), it points to cell in the same sheet too (this is
> > wrong as I don't have formula link from it). Please tell Mac Excel team about
> > this problem.
> >
> > As a result, I gave up using Mac Excel and use MS Excel right now.
>
> --
> Pat McMillan
> Macintosh Business Unit
> Microsoft Corp.
> This posting is provided �AS IS� with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
> I just sent you the file

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frobozz

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:56 am
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I just downloaded and installed SP1 and my circular reference problem still exists.

I am still trying to pare down the sheet to something that exhibits the problem but does not contain all our proprietary stuff. The size of the workbook may in fact be part of the problem. It's not outrageous, but it is 16 sheets, some of which have over 300 rows and a few dozen columns.

Duncan

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Pat McMillan

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:04 pm
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Thanks for these reports, Duncan.

Regarding the erroneous circular reference problem: We tried to get a fix
into SP1 but didn't quite make the deadline for that release. We are testing
a fix now and hope to release it as soon as possible. If you can provide me
with a file that reproduces the problem, I can add it to our testing matrix,
just to be sure. Please send to patmcmil.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com.

Regarding the bogus compatibility errors: Thanks for the report! I'll be
posting a bug for that and we will consider it for a future update.

Regarding the update issue with cell references: I'll look into that one and
post a bug if we don't already have one. I'll let you know if I need more
info, but it looks like you've done your homework already!

Thanks again,

Pat


On 5/14/08 9:56 AM, in article ee8bff6.20.TakeThisOut@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"frobozz@officeformac.com" wrote:

> I just downloaded and installed SP1 and my circular reference problem still
> exists.
>
> I am still trying to pare down the sheet to something that exhibits the
> problem but does not contain all our proprietary stuff. The size of the
> workbook may in fact be part of the problem. It's not outrageous, but it is 16
> sheets, some of which have over 300 rows and a few dozen columns.
>
> Duncan

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Pat McMillan

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:08 pm
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Hi again, Duncan.

With regard to the problem of the linked cell not updating, it looks like I
am going to need more information from you, or some files to repro this.
Following your general steps, and using fairly small tab delimited data
sets, I don't see this problem. When I paste the data into a range on sheet2
that overlaps the cell linked to from sheet1, then the value of the cell on
sheet1 updates as expected. It could be that the problem you're seeing is
related to the size of the data being pasted, the size of the range you're
pasting into, the type of data in the source or destination range, or
something different. Is there any chance you could share an Excel file and
text file that reproduces this? If you can, please send it to me at
patmcmil.RemoveThis@microsoft.com.

Thanks,

Pat


On 5/14/08 9:56 AM, in article ee8bff6.20.RemoveThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
"frobozz@officeformac.com" wrote:

> I just downloaded and installed SP1 and my circular reference problem still
> exists.
>
> I am still trying to pare down the sheet to something that exhibits the
> problem but does not contain all our proprietary stuff. The size of the
> workbook may in fact be part of the problem. It's not outrageous, but it is 16
> sheets, some of which have over 300 rows and a few dozen columns.
>
> Duncan

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Microsoft Corp.
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JoelR

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:28 am
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Pat and Duncan, I too am having this same problem and have tried numerous
things to fix it with no success. I would be more than happy to send my
microsoft excel 2008 for mac worksheet to you, Duncan, if it would help solve
this problem.

Let me know and I will send it,

Joel

Pat McMillan wrote:
>Hi again, Duncan.
>
>With regard to the problem of the linked cell not updating, it looks like I
>am going to need more information from you, or some files to repro this.
>Following your general steps, and using fairly small tab delimited data
>sets, I don't see this problem. When I paste the data into a range on sheet2
>that overlaps the cell linked to from sheet1, then the value of the cell on
>sheet1 updates as expected. It could be that the problem you're seeing is
>related to the size of the data being pasted, the size of the range you're
>pasting into, the type of data in the source or destination range, or
>something different. Is there any chance you could share an Excel file and
>text file that reproduces this? If you can, please send it to me at
>patmcmil@microsoft.com.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Pat
>
>On 5/14/08 9:56 AM, in article ee8bff6.20 DeleteThis @webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
>
>> I just downloaded and installed SP1 and my circular reference problem still
>> exists.
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
>> Duncan
>
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Pat McMillan

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:07 am
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Thanks Joel. Can you tell me which problem you're referring to? The
erroneous circular reference problem or the issue of certain linked cells
not updating when pasting data over the source range?

If it's the erroneous circular reference issue, we don't need any more files
for that. We have a fix ready that we hope we will be able to release soon
to solve the problem.

Thanks,

Pat


On 5/25/08 5:28 PM, in article 84b41a48c20ff@uwe, "JoelR"
wrote:

> Pat and Duncan, I too am having this same problem and have tried numerous
> things to fix it with no success. I would be more than happy to send my
> microsoft excel 2008 for mac worksheet to you, Duncan, if it would help solve
> this problem.
>
> Let me know and I will send it,
>
> Joel
>
> Pat McMillan wrote:
>> Hi again, Duncan.
>>
>> With regard to the problem of the linked cell not updating, it looks like I
>> am going to need more information from you, or some files to repro this.
>> Following your general steps, and using fairly small tab delimited data
>> sets, I don't see this problem. When I paste the data into a range on sheet2
>> that overlaps the cell linked to from sheet1, then the value of the cell on
>> sheet1 updates as expected. It could be that the problem you're seeing is
>> related to the size of the data being pasted, the size of the range you're
>> pasting into, the type of data in the source or destination range, or
>> something different. Is there any chance you could share an Excel file and
>> text file that reproduces this? If you can, please send it to me at
>> patmcmil.DeleteThis@microsoft.com.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> On 5/14/08 9:56 AM, in article ee8bff6.20.DeleteThis@webcrossing.caR9absDaxw,
>>
>>> I just downloaded and installed SP1 and my circular reference problem still
>>> exists.
>> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>> Duncan
>>
>

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