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JF Mezei

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Since: Apr 16, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:56 am
Post subject: Eliminating the .local from node name
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Say my domain name is bicycle.com

I setup my mac with a node name of "brakes".

I setup LPD service on a different node callled "chain".

On the mac (10.4.11) I setup a LPR print queue that points to a print
queue served by CHAIN .

However, instead of receiving LPR requests from
myself.TakeThisOut@brakes.bicycle.com
or myself@brakes

it gets it from myself.TakeThisOut@brakes.local


"chain" is setup with proxies, and I can't enter "brakes.local" as an
authorized node to submit print requests since it is not a valid host name.

The ".local" isn't seen by CHAIN when it comes to NFS stuff. But for LPD
it sees the ".local".

Is there a way to eliminate the ".local" from the MAC ? I would rather
see the nodename as "brakes" so it works with DNS resolution with the
default domain name.

(as a temporary fix, I told chain that proxies are not necessary, but I
wouldn't want to leave that like that for a long time)


I have often seen the ".local" nomenclature in various panels/dialogues,
but so far, it never got out of the mac until I tries the LPR/LPD print
queues.

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Jerry Kindall

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:56 am
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In article , JF Mezei
wrote:

> Say my domain name is bicycle.com
>
> I setup my mac with a node name of "brakes".
>
> I setup LPD service on a different node callled "chain".
>
> On the mac (10.4.11) I setup a LPR print queue that points to a print
> queue served by CHAIN .
>
> However, instead of receiving LPR requests from
> myself.TakeThisOut@brakes.bicycle.com
> or myself@brakes
>
> it gets it from myself.TakeThisOut@brakes.local
>
>
> "chain" is setup with proxies, and I can't enter "brakes.local" as an
> authorized node to submit print requests since it is not a valid host name.
>
> The ".local" isn't seen by CHAIN when it comes to NFS stuff. But for LPD
> it sees the ".local".
>
> Is there a way to eliminate the ".local" from the MAC ? I would rather
> see the nodename as "brakes" so it works with DNS resolution with the
> default domain name.
>
> (as a temporary fix, I told chain that proxies are not necessary, but I
> wouldn't want to leave that like that for a long time)
>
> I have often seen the ".local" nomenclature in various panels/dialogues,
> but so far, it never got out of the mac until I tries the LPR/LPD print
> queues.

In the Sharing preferences pane there's an Edit button that lets you
change the local hostname, but it doesn't look like it lets you remove
the .local.

One alternative is to check to see whether there is a Bonjour/zeroconf
(multicast DNS) implementation that will run on the "chain" machine.
The .local top-level domain is defined for use by mDNS and your "chain"
machine will automatically see that name if it has a mDNS client.
Alternatively, you can simply add brakes.local to the hosts file on
chain.

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rezwits

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Since: Dec 25, 2007
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Eliminating the .local from node name [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 2008-02-07 05:56:10 -0800, JF Mezei said:

> Say my domain name is bicycle.com
>
> I setup my mac with a node name of "brakes".
>
> I setup LPD service on a different node callled "chain".
>
> On the mac (10.4.11) I setup a LPR print queue that points to a print
> queue served by CHAIN .
>
> However, instead of receiving LPR requests from
> myself DeleteThis @brakes.bicycle.com
> or myself@brakes
>
> it gets it from myself DeleteThis @brakes.local
>
>
> "chain" is setup with proxies, and I can't enter "brakes.local" as an
> authorized node to submit print requests since it is not a valid host name.
>
> The ".local" isn't seen by CHAIN when it comes to NFS stuff. But for LPD
> it sees the ".local".
>
> Is there a way to eliminate the ".local" from the MAC ? I would rather
> see the nodename as "brakes" so it works with DNS resolution with the
> default domain name.
>
> (as a temporary fix, I told chain that proxies are not necessary, but I
> wouldn't want to leave that like that for a long time)
>
>
> I have often seen the ".local" nomenclature in various panels/dialogues,
> but so far, it never got out of the mac until I tries the LPR/LPD print
> queues.

Well if you have a DNS server setup yes. You could have
brakes.bicycle.com in addition to brakes.local. The .local is just
visibile to your local subnet, it doesn't hurt anything, it actually
helps in case you don't have a DNS server. Let say you were at a WiFi
hotspot away from were your subnet, like a coffee shop, if you tried to
access your system via brakes.local, you wouldn't be able to, it
wouldn't be visible. If you set up a DNS server or setup ip numbers
via your DOMAIN registrars interface, whatever that may be, then you
could access that machine from the coffee shop. Unless you get your
DNS server(s) running yourself, which is a bitch (I think at least),
you can't really see your domain that way...

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Lewis

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:04 pm
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JF Mezei

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:35 pm
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Lewis wrote:

> Well, it's trivial to setup a host file for .local, then it would be
> valid. How is your domain of bicycle.tld setup on your machine? Are you
> running DNS already?

I run a bona fide DNS server. And when that Mac does NFS to the VMS
machine, the authentication information coming from the Mac has the
right host name ( brakes.bicycle.com for instance) and/or IP address.

So it is frustrating to see that one one not behave and send
"brakes.local" instead of its bona fide name. (This is visible through
the LR/LPD printing). I had seen the .local on various dialogues on the
mac, but had never seen ".local" leave the mac.

I figured there might be an easy way to disable the use of ".local" on
the mac and either use no ".something", or use the default domain
defined in the dns resolver on the mac.
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