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Since: Jan 05, 2010
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:25 pm
Post subject: Data Storage
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I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
with a good old-fashioned cable?
Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
or otherwise)?
TIA
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:38 pm
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In article , louisxiv wrote:
> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>
> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
> or otherwise)?
Well, "good old fashioned cable" will move your data a whole lot faster
than wireless anything. Our LAN is on the gigabit; only guests use the
wireless.
LaCie make good drives, I've got a 1 TB, and a 500, firewire 800.
However, I just bought a Seagate Expansion for the wife, 1TB, USB2, and
it seems very quiet and efficient. There were some reports of flakiness
a few months back, but nothing recently. It only cost $100. It calls
itself a PC drive, formatted DOS and MBR. I'm guessing that they also
sell a Mac "version" in larger markets. It comes with Winders software
that's _only_ used for registering the product, which you can do by
visiting Seagate's site anyway. I reformatted HFS+ Journalled into two
500 gig partitions to replay the oul' Womans littler drive and storage
folder.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:26 pm
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On 2010-01-05 21:38:33 +0000, Warren Oates said:
> In article , louisxiv wrote:
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>> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
>> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
>> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
>> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
>> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
>> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
>> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
>> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>>
>> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
>> or otherwise)?
>
> Well, "good old fashioned cable" will move your data a whole lot faster
> than wireless anything. Our LAN is on the gigabit; only guests use the
> wireless.
>
> LaCie make good drives, I've got a 1 TB, and a 500, firewire 800.
> However, I just bought a Seagate Expansion for the wife, 1TB, USB2, and
> it seems very quiet and efficient. There were some reports of flakiness
> a few months back, but nothing recently. It only cost $100. It calls
> itself a PC drive, formatted DOS and MBR. I'm guessing that they also
> sell a Mac "version" in larger markets. It comes with Winders software
> that's _only_ used for registering the product, which you can do by
> visiting Seagate's site anyway. I reformatted HFS+ Journalled into two
> 500 gig partitions to replay the oul' Womans littler drive and storage
> folder.
I've looked at the Seagate expansion one already and it looks pretty
good for the cash.
I'm assuming i can use Time machine via USB as opposed to wireless? >> Stay informed about: Data Storage |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:56 pm
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In article , louisxiv wrote:
> I'm assuming i can use Time machine via USB as opposed to wireless?
Firewire would be much better, IMO.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:56 am
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In article , louisxiv wrote:
> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>
> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
> or otherwise)?
>
> TIA
>
> xiv
A NAS is best for multiple computers because it can service them all at
once. Make sure it says it supports AFP and Time Machine. Wire it all
up with Cat 6 and a gigabit Ethernet switch. If your router is 10/100
Ethernet, simply put a gigabit switch in front of it and plug everything
into the switch. Wireless is miserable for NAS so avoid it.
If you don't want NAS, Firewire 800 would be better than USB 2.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:00 am
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In article , louisxiv wrote:
> I've looked at the Seagate expansion one already and it looks pretty
> good for the cash.
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> I'm assuming i can use Time machine via USB as opposed to wireless?
I don't use TM, but when the system saw the disk, it asked me if I
wanted to use the Seagate as a TM backup, which I'd take as a "yes," but
you should verify that.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:55 pm
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In article , louisxiv wrote:
> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>
> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
> or otherwise)?
>
> TIA
>
> xiv
Attach a nice big drive to the iMac. Then on the MacBook Pro
mount the iMac's external disk. Then tell the MacBook Pro's
TimeMachine to use the network mounted iMac external disk.
This will work, however, you must be very careful when putting
your MacBook Pro to sleep, as if it is in the middle of a
TimeMachine backup, you will most likely corrupt your TimeMachine
backup, and have to start all over again.
2nd option. Again put the big disk on the iMac. Network mount
the iMac's external disk on the MacBook Pro. Now use SuperDuper
(or Carbon Copy Cloner) to backup the MacBook Pro to a Sparse
image on the network mounted iMac external drive.
If you want incremental backups, use a backup utility such as
Retrospect, into a container file, again to the network mounted
iMac external disk.
Bob Harris >> Stay informed about: Data Storage |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:28 am
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:56:34 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
wrote:
>In article , louisxiv wrote:
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>> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
>> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
>> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
>> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
>> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
>> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
>> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
>> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>>
>> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
>> or otherwise)?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> xiv
>
>A NAS is best for multiple computers because it can service them all at
>once. Make sure it says it supports AFP and Time Machine. Wire it all
>up with Cat 6 and a gigabit Ethernet switch. If your router is 10/100
>Ethernet, simply put a gigabit switch in front of it and plug everything
>into the switch. Wireless is miserable for NAS so avoid it.
>
>If you don't want NAS, Firewire 800 would be better than USB 2.
What about 2 gigabit fibre channel?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:26 pm
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Bob Harris wrote:
> If you want incremental backups, use a backup utility such as
> Retrospect, into a container file, again to the network mounted
> iMac external disk.
CrashPlan should work well in this situation.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:42 pm
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In article ,
Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:56:34 -0800, Kevin McMurtrie
> wrote:
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> >In article , louisxiv wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
> >> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
> >> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
> >> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
> >> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
> >> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
> >> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
> >> with a good old-fashioned cable?
> >>
> >> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
> >> or otherwise)?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> xiv
> >
> >A NAS is best for multiple computers because it can service them all at
> >once. Make sure it says it supports AFP and Time Machine. Wire it all
> >up with Cat 6 and a gigabit Ethernet switch. If your router is 10/100
> >Ethernet, simply put a gigabit switch in front of it and plug everything
> >into the switch. Wireless is miserable for NAS so avoid it.
> >
> >If you don't want NAS, Firewire 800 would be better than USB 2.
>
> What about 2 gigabit fibre channel?
>
That would work even better if you have a host bus adapter and a host.
I'm guessing that most individuals don't have a Fiber Channel storage
network as their first backup drive. Even a half-way product like the
DroboElite is far beyond the typical computer user's needs.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 8:25 am
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<louisxiv> wrote:
> I'm looking for a solution for backup for both my iMac and my Macbook
> Pro. I'm trying to decide whether or not to buy a network hard drive or
> just a standard one. At the moment I have a Thomson router which is
> plugged into my imac and use airport to connect my macbook to it. I'd
> ideally like to have one hard drive to back up both machines and would
> like to use Time Machine to do this in both cases. can anyone advise re
> the value of adding another wireless device into the mix against going
> with a good old-fashioned cable?
>
> Also, can anyone recommend a good hard drive to use with my Macs (wired
> or otherwise)?
I would advise against getting what I got: a 1.5TB Verbatim external USB
HD as backup. Also very cheap, ¤99. Its incredibly slow, and only comes
with Nero backup software (for Windoze). It may be better with
incremental backup software for Macs.
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